On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 03:13:28PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/22/2013 02:52 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 02:28:52PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >>What better time to move epel out of Fedora since is really not > >>related to Fedora et all but is strictly for downstream distribution > >>based upon us to use ( like RHEL and it's clones ) > >> > >I'm not sure what you think needs to be "moved out of Fedora". Governance > >of EPEL is separate. Packagers are allowed to be independent. in your > >previous post you mention the word "infrastructure". If you're just talking > >about the fact that epel shares the same koji, bodhi, git, etc with Fedora, > >I'm not sure what harm those do to us right now and I can see a large amount > >of benefit in terms of the manpower required to maintain those systems. > > For Epel yes, for RHEL yes for Fedora no > For Fedora, yes as well. The Fedora Infrastructure team uses EPEL for their boxes so they'd likely still be the ones who maintained a separate system. If a separate system took more of their time then that would cut into their time spent working on Fedora itself. > >Could you please go into what is troubling you more? > > Reluctant changes and cleanups to components and their spec files and > our packing guidelines due to them being maintained in Epel and RHEL. > Cleanups and changes sounds like a social problem rather than a technical one. I think you'll have this issue as long as the same maintainer is concerned with both Fedora and EPEL/RHEL. I mean you mention RHEL and RHEL already lives in a separate system so it doesn't seem to have helped. Packaging Guidelines themselves are written for Fedora. We note where EPEL/RHEL need something different where applicable. -Toshio
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