Re: EPEL (was Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk))

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On 07/22/2013 04:34 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:08:32 -0400
Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On 07/22/2013 11:58 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Our Fedora infrastructure team should be using Fedora it's an
disgrace to the community for them not doing so.
So, first off, as I think I have indicated many times: we already do
use Fedora in places where it makes sense to.

We don't exclusively use Fedora on all machines/instances, because it
doesn't make sense to.

That's something else that this policy could potentially addresses,
frankly. The reason our infrastructure team doesn't use Fedora is
because upgrading critical infrastructure every six months is simply
infeasible.
It's not only that. ;)

* Having to upgrade every 6months or a year.
* Having to redeploy/test all our applications on a new version every
   6months or a year.
* Rate of updates is very high. We would need to schedule lots more
   outages to keep up with kernel and glibc updates for example.
* Updates can break things/less tested than RHEL updates (This one I
   think is much less the case than it used to be, but still there).
* Probibly some more things I'm not thinking of now.

So, really, I can see us expanding use of Fedora in some areas, but I
don't know that we will ever get to "100% Fedora". In fact, depending
on how you figure that it's impossible. Things like some of our storage
or routers are not even able to run Fedora.

Is the above not just highlighting the fact that our release cycle is to short and instead of of our infrastructure team working towards changing that, they chose to workaround it instead by using another distribution...

JBG


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