On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:31:56PM -0400, Steve Clark wrote: > On 07/15/2013 08:29 PM, Lars Seipel wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 02:46:27PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: > >>I don't actually care whether there's a binary journal or not, but far > >>more of us have real usecases for /var/log/messages, so we shouldn't > >>give up that being available by default. > >If you use bash or ksh you could just replace /var/log/messages with > ><(journalctl) in your command line and stuff should just work (when > >reading). Other shells can probably do the same. It obviously depends on > >journalctl being able to run. > What about scripts that use /usr/bin/logger? Do messages generated by this utility > end up in the journal? Or php scripts, or programs using syslog(3). Yes. Even now, all syslog messages pass through journald. Zbyszek -- they are not broken. they are refucktored -- alxchk -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel