Le Lun 15 juillet 2013 15:39, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > On Mon, 15.07.13 15:34, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: > >> >> Le Lun 15 juillet 2013 13:23, Lennart Poettering a écrit : >> > On Mon, 15.07.13 11:11, Miroslav Suchý (msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: >> >> > Hence, the choice between "journal by default + syslog optional" and >> > "journal optional + syslog by default" does not exist. The choice >> > between "journal by default + syslog by default" and "journal by >> default >> > + syslog optional" however does. >> > >> > But anyway, I'd still like to hear the technical reasoning for the >> > opinion you expressed. >> >> IMHO it is way too early to switch of syslog, as systemd+syslog hosed >> systems a few weeks ago, so the reliability of the systemd parts is >> anything but proven so far. And I'm quite sure there are scores of nasty >> surprises to find yet. For example, systemd still does not like being >> updated by yum, and I'm pretty sure no one looked at the journal parts >> when that happens. > > Any references to open bugs about this? not really, since one of the things I've not figured out yet is how to get reliable logs of late shutdown stages -- Nicolas Mailhot -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel