On Seg, 2013-07-15 at 10:36 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail > > Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering net>, Matthew > Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject org> > > No longer install an MTA by default. (Specifically let's remove sendmail from > @core and @standard comps groups.) > > == Detailed description == > Let's change the default install to no longer install an MTA by default. > Specifically, let's remove sendmail from the @standard and @core group. > > On today's Internet most SMTP hosts do not accept mail from a server which is > not configured as a mail exchange for a real domain, hence the default > configuration of sendmail is seldom useful. Even if the server is not tied to a > real mail domain, it can be configured to authenticate as a user on the target > server, but again, this requires explicit configuration on both ends and is > fairly awkward. Something that doesn't work without manual configuration should > not be in the default install. > > Most MUAs we ship (especially those we install by default) do not deliver to a > local MTA anyway but rather include an SMTP client. Usually, they will not > pick up mail delivered to local users. This means that unless the user knows > about local mail and takes steps to receive local mail addressed to root, such > messages are likely to be ignored. > > On top of that, sendmail has always been a quite surprising choice for an MTA, > as most administrators tend to prefer mail systems such as Postfix or Exim > these days, and Sendmail appears to be quite arcane to most. > > Administrators should install the MTA of their choice after installation (or > via kickstart) and sendmail should not be the default anymore. > > Many other distributions do not install an MTA by default anymore, and so > should we. Running systems without MTA is already widely tested. > > The various tools (such as cron) which previously required a local MTA for > operation have been updated already to deliver their job output to syslog > rather than sendmail, which is a good default. > > Also see the previous attempt: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoDefaultMTA > > == Scope == > Simply remove "sendmail" from all default install groups in "comps". > > Packages which strictly require a MTA to run might need updating to gain > dependencies on "server(smtp)" (but they needed that before too, so this is > mostly just bugfixing that's useful anyway). If any of the packages in the > default install is one of those, we need to look at it in detail, and find a > solution. However, currently no package of the default install is requiring an > MTA. > > Proposal owners: Commit a change to "comps" to remove "sendmail" from it. > > Other developers: logwatch/logcheck might need updating to not require an MTA > for delivering log changes. Some packages might need a dependency on > "server(smtp)" added. I'd like understand how cronjobs deliver his emails , to root user ? > Release engineering: nothing really. > > Policies and guidelines: nothing really. Maybe the guidelines should clarify > that /usr/bin/sendmail doesn't exist on many systems, but that was already the > case before -- so little changes. > _______________________________________________ > devel-announce mailing list > devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
