On 03/11/2013 08:49 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 03/11/2013 02:41 PM, Björn Persson wrote: >> Yes, why not display the Grub menu? > > Because it's the year 2013. Not 1999. > >> Whether any text is displayed or not, there still needs to be a long >> enough pause that the user has time to press a key. Not displaying any >> text at all would make it harder to understand that the time to press >> that key is now. Many people won't even understand that they have an >> opportunity to press a key. > > Does any other computing device you own prompt you for a boot menu? Your > mobile phone? Your TV (which likely has embedded Linux)? Your car? My computer is not a mobile phone or car. I much prefer it to *not* become mobile phone-like cripple. > Why is that? Could it be because a boot menu is not necessary for normal > operation? A normal user doesn't need to wonder "Hey what kernel do I > need to boot today?" every time their system boots. ...until something breaks. *Then* suddenly you discover that you _do_ need a way to see all this stuff (and more). > If you are a developing developer and need to boot a different kernel or > change kernel parameters then you know how to get into the boot menu -- > on-screen prompts or no on-screen prompts. > > There is a time when developers need to distance themselves from > user-interfaces and realize they are not the only user of the > user-interface. This is one of those times. Intentionally dumbing down the system so that even idiots can use it will result in *only* idiots using it. If you don't want to see boot menu, there is a way to switch it off. This behavior can be made much easier to enable, if necessary - along the lines of "Don't ask me again" checkboxes. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel