On 03/11/2013 02:41 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > Yes, why not display the Grub menu? Because it's the year 2013. Not 1999. > Whether any text is displayed or not, there still needs to be a long > enough pause that the user has time to press a key. Not displaying any > text at all would make it harder to understand that the time to press > that key is now. Many people won't even understand that they have an > opportunity to press a key. Does any other computing device you own prompt you for a boot menu? Your mobile phone? Your TV (which likely has embedded Linux)? Your car? Windows? OS X? Why is that? Could it be because a boot menu is not necessary for normal operation? A normal user doesn't need to wonder "Hey what kernel do I need to boot today?" every time their system boots. If you are a developing developer and need to boot a different kernel or change kernel parameters then you know how to get into the boot menu -- on-screen prompts or no on-screen prompts. There is a time when developers need to distance themselves from user-interfaces and realize they are not the only user of the user-interface. This is one of those times. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel