On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 11:52 +0100, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Intentionally dumbing down the system so that even idiots can use it > will result in *only* idiots using it. You should tone down your comments a little. Denigrating people who don't share knowledge about computers at a level similar to yours as idiots doesn't help your argument at all. In a similar vein, athletes might call you an unfit cripple if you don't keep up with them, butchers might deem you a timid wimp if you don't slaughter your own meat and artists might write you off as a blundering dolt who can't hold a brush straight if you're just an ordinary person who doesn't paint his own pictures. See how that doesn't help? > If you don't want to see boot menu, there is a way to switch it off. "If you want to see the boot menu, there's a way to switch it on." It's almost funny how those that can customize want their preferences as default, to the detriment of those who can't. You'd have a point if you argued "slippery slope" based on past performance where stuff was "dumbed down" -- in too many cases, configuration options vanishing from a UI were almost a death knell for the functionality behind them. However, power users and developers should not be the majority of users unless we actively want to keep Fedora reserved for an "elite" of developers and other IT-afficionados. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nils@xxxxxxxxxx nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel