On 12 March 2013 22:13, Simo Sorce <simo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Why should the default configuration be ugly, slow, and biased toward > handling the odd case when things break ? > I confess I've only been lightly skimming this entire deeply interesting thread, on which more man hours have almost certainly now been spent than will ever be taken by a boot delay in grub, however I did get the impression that 'ugly' is actually a series of fixable bugs and not the inevitable result of making it apparent to a user that the boot sequence can be interrupted and changed if the machine is in trouble. Further, aside from the 'broken' boot problem (and lots of people on this devel list will have much easier access to multiple computers to look things up in that case than the average user), there is also the case where people are asked to change boot parameters to help try and debug problems that do not directly result in the machine not booting. Now in that case you can tell them how to do it, but why not make it simple rather than requiring hair trigger reflexes to catch the right key at the right moment (and again, that's harder for someone who is not used to messing about with booting and the timings and sequences involved). -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel