Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

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On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 09:56 -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
> On 03/12/2013 09:33 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 12.03.13 09:13, Steve Clark (sclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
> > 
> > > How many times do you boot your system each day? 10? Okay thats a
> > > whole 20 additional seconds.
> > This is way up on my list of most non-sensical arguments about building
> > OSes, right next to "Linux is about choice".
> > 
> > This bullshit about "boot times don't matter" is just entirely bogus,
> > and it doesn't get better by constant repitition.
> > 
> > Fast boot times matter on desktops, they matter on embedded, they matter
> > on mobile, they matter or servers, they matter everywhere.
> > 
> > Fast boot times matter to dual-boot users, they matter to everybdoy who
> > doesn't run his system 24/7, they matter in container setups, they
> > matter in HA setups, they matter in the cloud, they matter for people
> > who update their system, they matter to people with discontiniuous power
> > supplies, they matter to provide users with a sane user experience.
> > 
> > Fast boot times save you time and energy. They increase reliability, and
> > applicability.
> > 
> > Fast boot times improve the first impression our OS makes on people.
> > 
> > And yes, I know that some BIOSes suck, and are slower than the OS to
> > boot. But that's -- for once -- something that *does* not matter, and is
> > no excuse for having everything else to be slow, too. The Windows 8
> > certification *requires* fast POST from all machines, and so, it's only
> > getting better, and we should do our bit about it.
> > 
> > You know: *you* might not need fast boot. *Your* systems you might not
> > reboot only every other week. *Your* server system might have a very
> > slow BIOS POST. But we don't do this OS for *you* alone. Fedora has a
> > certain claim of universality. And that's why fast boot matters to
> > Fedora.
> > 
> > Lennart
> > 
> How in the hell does 2 more seconds when booting a Desktop make any
> difference in an 8 to 10 hour
> day that the computer is going to be up. Go get a cup a coffee! 
> 
> You keep touting window 8 - maybe you should just use it an leave
> Linux alone!

I reboot VMs a lot for development, 2 seconds do make a difference, it's
a little thing but 99% of the time I do not care about what is shown,
just that the machine is back up as fast as possible.

Simo.

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Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York

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