On Tue, 12.03.13 09:13, Steve Clark (sclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > How many times do you boot your system each day? 10? Okay thats a > whole 20 additional seconds. This is way up on my list of most non-sensical arguments about building OSes, right next to "Linux is about choice". This bullshit about "boot times don't matter" is just entirely bogus, and it doesn't get better by constant repitition. Fast boot times matter on desktops, they matter on embedded, they matter on mobile, they matter or servers, they matter everywhere. Fast boot times matter to dual-boot users, they matter to everybdoy who doesn't run his system 24/7, they matter in container setups, they matter in HA setups, they matter in the cloud, they matter for people who update their system, they matter to people with discontiniuous power supplies, they matter to provide users with a sane user experience. Fast boot times save you time and energy. They increase reliability, and applicability. Fast boot times improve the first impression our OS makes on people. And yes, I know that some BIOSes suck, and are slower than the OS to boot. But that's -- for once -- something that *does* not matter, and is no excuse for having everything else to be slow, too. The Windows 8 certification *requires* fast POST from all machines, and so, it's only getting better, and we should do our bit about it. You know: *you* might not need fast boot. *Your* systems you might not reboot only every other week. *Your* server system might have a very slow BIOS POST. But we don't do this OS for *you* alone. Fedora has a certain claim of universality. And that's why fast boot matters to Fedora. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel