Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

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Fedora isn't windows. Its not OSX. It should never be those things and I'm grateful for it.

The boot menu doesn't hurt anything.  It has benefits.

What are the benefits of removing the boot menu?
* Saving upwards of 5 seconds per day! My god, think of the productivity boost!
* Its prettier.  Wow.  Neat.  Huh.

Why is this even being considered?


On 03/12/2013 02:17 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Mar 12, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Alec Leamas <leamas.alec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I  *do* appreciate the attempts to get a clean, graphically consistent boot experience. And to be frank, I wonder if not WIn 8 (and perhaps Mac) has got it right. It's just that a Fedora box isn't a Win8 or a Mac, and the boot UI cant change that.
Windows and OS X get away with a simpler experience, both user and MS/Apple development side, because of hardware certification (control). And they don't expect to interoperate that well with other OSs. A more capable heuristic is needed as Fedora boots, to account for events those systems don't need to.

So if Windows and OS X have the ux right, Fedora can do it even better by getting more things right under the hood. That benefits everyone, not just new users. It benefits remote VM or metal rebooting after a kernel update causes a problem, and 'self heals' by automatically falling back to a prior kernel in case that'll help resolve the problem. With btrfs snapshots before updates, more than just the prior kernel can be fallen back to.



Chris Murphy

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