On 11 March 2013 20:43, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Björn Persson > <bjorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> > If some text like "Press Esc now to choose which operating system to >>> > boot." would be displayed, then the pause would need to be long enough >>> > for the user to read and understand the instruction and then reach for >>> > the right key – and the terser the text is made the harder it will be to >>> > understand. I estimate that at least 15 seconds would be needed. Adding >>> > "Press Enter to save a few seconds." would make it even more text to >>> > read and understand. >>> >>> Yikes. On a modern system the BIOS POST finishes within 500ms, and >>> kernel+userspace in 2s. And you want us to spend 15s for nothing in the >>> boot loader, for a feature only the fewest people need, and those who >>> need anyway know how to get? >> >> No, those 15 seconds were my argument for why it should NOT be done >> that way. As I already wrote, if the Grub menu is simply displayed, >> then five seconds is enough. Much better. And if you want to save those >> five seconds you just need to press Enter. > > I'd argue "saving this 5 seconds" is more common than wanting to mess > with the grub menu (maybe unless you dual boot). > So if the only OS is fedora, we should just boot. > > If you really want to menu hold down any key. Kernel update breaks system. User ignorant of hold-down key approach is stuck. Menu at least advertises possibility of alternative. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
