On Mon, 11.03.13 20:41, Björn Persson (bjorn@rombobjörn.se) wrote: > Ryan Lerch wrote: > > With regards to a label on the screen instructing the user how to show > > the hidden preboot menu (GRUB), It is clutter that is not needed. It > > makes boot up longer, as that screen will need to appear on the screen > > long enough for the user to read, at which point why not just display > > the preboot menu? > > Yes, why not display the Grub menu? > > Whether any text is displayed or not, there still needs to be a long > enough pause that the user has time to press a key. Not displaying any > text at all would make it harder to understand that the time to press > that key is now. Many people won't even understand that they have an > opportunity to press a key. > > If the menu is displayed, it takes only a few seconds to understand > that there is a choice and a countdown, and hopefully most people will > quickly discover that pressing a key stops the countdown. Thus five > seconds is a long enough pause. > > If some text like "Press Esc now to choose which operating system to > boot." would be displayed, then the pause would need to be long enough > for the user to read and understand the instruction and then reach for > the right key – and the terser the text is made the harder it will be to > understand. I estimate that at least 15 seconds would be needed. Adding > "Press Enter to save a few seconds." would make it even more text to > read and understand. Yikes. On a modern system the BIOS POST finishes within 500ms, and kernel+userspace in 2s. And you want us to spend 15s for nothing in the boot loader, for a feature only the fewest people need, and those who need anyway know how to get? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
