On Fri, 09.11.12 08:53, Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 01:41:08PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > You might want to remove plymouth from the minimal install since it > > does not make sense having it there anyway > > Yes probably. Anyone know why it's there? In rc.sysinit-times ply was the only way how LUKS passwords and suchlike could be prompted during boot. Hence rc.sysinit in a way relied on plymouth to be around to fully function. In systemd we have a non-ply fallback in place however, so prompting passwords on the text console without ply around should work fine nowadays. We regularly test systemd upstream with and without plymouth, to make sure both ways to boot is well supported. Dropping plymouth from the minimal install set should hence be unproblematic and well supported. Note that even on systemd without a display plymouth used to be highly useful since it collected the boot status output from the console and stored it away in log files. With systemd we now connect all boot services (that means stdout/stderr and syslog() of all services in the initrd and early boot) to the journal anyway, so this really useful functionality of plymouth is not necessary anymore. (In case you wonder, to get these boot outputs just run "journalctl -b"). Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel