On 11/03/2012 12:30 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Fri, 2012-11-02 at 16:04 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> * Upgrading every year, with an unreliable upgrade process, is not >> something you have to do with a proper stable OS > > On some stable OSs you cannot upgrade *at all*. It is true that some OSs > are maintained for longer time. A short release cycle puts a lot more > emphasis on working updates, but to be honest I haven't had huge issues > with Fedora, no more than I used to with debian/ubuntu > There are some cases were it went south on some releases and I had to > manually handle it. But then if that's a problem we could simply create > a /home partition by default and users can choose to reinstall just the > OS and keep the /home intact. > For a desktop that should be ok in all cases where you fear an upgrade > would be too dangerous. > >> * We do not insist on a level of polish or lack of functional regression >> in our stable releases which is any way consistent with a true >> productized general purpose OS > > Maybe if we cut stable releases to 1 we can improve this ? > > The only real reason we maintain N-2 is that forcing a 6mo update on > everyone is just ridiculous, but a 1y cycle seems reasonable enough, and > with a rolling devel release there would be less reason for frequent > stable releases. > I like where this is going, here is another view or counter proposal to rolling updates. Currently, each Fedora release is kept alive for 13(+/-) months. There were dozens of threads about shortening or prolonging period -- but I am not sure if something like the following has been ever discussed: Each N-th Fedora release -- where N%3==1 -- is alive for 7 months. Each N-th Fedora release -- where N%3==2 -- is alive for 7 months. Each N-th Fedora release -- where N%3==0 -- is alive for 19 months. Additionally, maintainers might be encouraged to push their system wide changes into N%3==1. As well as they might be encouraged to make the Fedora N%3==0 their best bread. -- Simon Lukasik -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
