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On 10/09/2012 02:12 PM, Lennart
Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 09.10.12 09:56, Simo Sorce (simo@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote:On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:23 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:On Tue, 09.10.12 07:10, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johannbg@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:On 10/09/2012 04:34 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:rsyslog.serviceRemind me again of the reason why we are still shipping rsyslog by default now that we have the journal?For F19 I plan to submit a feature asking for not installing syslog by default anymore. I wonder how far I'll get with this before this is shut down by the conservatives... ;-)Does systemd journal populate /var/log/messages ?No. It doesnt.I already found myself stranded in F18 a couple of times. Stuff changed and there is no way to discover how to fix things.Well, making changes means, well, making changes. Sure it is a bit of a learning involved if we make changes, but it should always be our goal to make the learning easy rather than just sticking to the old ways, because we are afraid of making these changes. More specifically a good approach here could be to include an almost empty /var/log/messages that just tells you to invoke "journalctl" instead. Alternatively we could just add a /var/log/README with the same info. (Actually, it has been on my TODO list for a while to add /etc/rc.d/init.d/README with similar info, I just never came around to actually do it.) Simon has a point and simply having well documented man pages is not enough and I myself have not been doing my due diligence wikifying stuff Given " CHANGES WITH 194: * If /etc/vconsole.conf is non-existent or
empty we will no longer load any console font or key map at boot
by default. Instead the kernel defaults will be left intact. This
is definitely the right thing to do, as no configuration should
mean no configuration, and hard-coding font names that are
different on all archs is probably a bad idea. Also, the kernel
default key map and font should be good enough for most cases
anyway, and mostly identical to the userspace fonts/key maps we
previously overloaded them with. If distributions want to continue
to default to a non-kernel font or key map they should ship a
default /etc/vconsole.conf with the appropriate contents."You probably want to do the same for /etc/sysconfig/i18n
since it's now considered legacy and administrators and users in
general should use ( using my use-case as an example ) "vconsole.keymap=is-latin1 vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16" on the kernel command line Instead of the old SYSFONT and FONT which probably are being ignored/deprecated now. or make the necessary changes to /etc/vconsole.conf as in KEYMAP=is-latin1 FONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 For those interested in details see [1] JBG *cough* in perfect pony world we would be updating the installer,firstboot and bunch of other stuff that needs to be updated and tested at the same time *cough* 1.http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/vconsole.conf.html |
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