On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 04:04:05PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > args. It's much better than /var/log/messages: [many nice things snipped; only responding to ones I have real concerns about.] > c) it auto-pages if run on a tty Hmmm. That's not necessarily what people are expecting, but okay. However, I notice that if I piped to less, lines are truncated. This is not good. Worse, if I pipe to _grep_, lines are truncated. That's _really bad_. I see there's an open bug for that: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=831665 > e) it shows you much more data, since its backend database is not > rotated prematurely by date, but only by disk space Big-environment people are going to want flexible control over this, as I'm sure you know. In my former job, log rotation time was set by a university-wide data retention policy, which was based on time, not an arbitrary space-free measure. (Note this covers both keeping data long enough, and making sure that it isn't retained for too long.) I can file an RFE bug if that's helpful. > i) You always see the full set of logs you have access to. No need > anymore to to look through /var/log/messages, /var/log/secure and so > on one individually. And you get all of this nicely interleaved. As noted in an earlier message, that distinction is there for a reason. We need a way to provide the same in the new system. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel