On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 21:29 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 09.10.2012 19:19, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > > On Tue, 09.10.12 15:19, Tom Hughes (tom@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > >> On 09/10/12 15:04, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> > >>> h) It's much shorter to type: "journalctl" than "less > >>> /var/log/messages". "journalctl -n" is shorter than "tail > >>> /var/log/messages". And "journalctl -f" is shorter than "tail -f > >>> /var/log/messages". > >> > >> While "less" helpfully wraps your log lines at the edge of your > >> terminal journalctl unhelpfully truncates them or, if -a is used, > >> makes you use left/right cursor to scroll back and forth in an > >> attempt to read the lines. Especially since it fully qualifies the > >> host name so the actual message has barely got started by column 80. > > > > On f18 we will not trucnate lines we pass to less. > > > > If you don't like the behaviour of less in regards of long lines, please > > file a bug to less. > > why is "less" used at all instead of "more" which > supports scrolling down AND up as example? I think you have less and more reversed? Dan > for me it is STIL a bad idea paging as default > and force users to set shell-aliases > > the unix-way to go is "whaterver | more" > > truncating and paging as default is really bad behavior > -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel