On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 06/19/2012 04:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> >> Am 19.06.2012 09:53, schrieb drago01: >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Matej Cepl <mcepl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 18/06/12 09:30, drago01 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This would just result into stagnation while the competition invents >>>>> much better wheels and leave us behind. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Abstracting for the sake of discussion from the particular case of grub2 >>>> could you at least imagine new program which would be worse than the >>>> program >>>> it replaces? >>> >>> >>> Sure. But a new program can as well be better then the one it replaces >>> even if the other one has been in use for years. Not even trying to >>> improve the old or replace it with something better that comes up >>> means stagnation which is what I am objecting to.You have to make >>> changes to go forward. >> >> >> but it is NIT better >> it is a config full of crap and script-code >> >> this is pervers - short time ago there was introduced >> systemd saying "shell scripts are evil" and directly >> after that we introduce a boot-loader with a configuration >> where each init-script ever existed was nice compared against >> >> CIONFIGURATION != SHELL-SCRIPT >> >> >> > > You seem to think we, the Fedora project, have any sort of sway as to how > things get written in their various upstreams. We don't, except for very > few cases. Our choices here with grub2 are > > A) continue using grub1 and continue working with diminishing resources to > keep grub1 working in the new environments a boot loader will be needed in. > > B) consume what upstream gives us in the form of grub2. C) Maintain grub1 ourselves (not that I'm volunteering.) D) Invent our own substitute (again, I'm not volunteeing.) > You seem to be advocating for option C) throw up your hands and yell "THIS > IS UNACCEPTABLE", and then.... what? > > > -- > Help me fight child abuse: http://tinyurl.com/jlkcourage > > - jlk > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- -- Joel Rees -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
