On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 09:40 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 06/18/2012 06:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I hesitate to put words in people's mouths, and correct me if I'm > > wrong, but it reads to me as if Jay and others are arguing from an > > incorrect premise. That premise is to assume that there is a > > God-given right for people who own computing devices to retrofit > > alternative operating systems onto those devices. > > > > I want to put it out there that this is _not true_. > > The problem with this claim is that it equivocates on the meaning of > "a right". There are at least two definitions of "a right" in this > sense: moral rights and legal rights. These are not the same. Moral > rights are not in the gift of any Government. While we may not have a > legal right to run whatever software we wish on hardware we own, it's > not at all unreasonable to claim a moral right to do so. See later discussion. In the sense of 'attempt to do so', this is certainly supportable, but is a side track to our actual topic here. In the sense of 'demand that the manufacturer make it easy to do so', no, I don't believe it is reasonable to claim such a right, moral or legal. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel