Bruno Wolff III <bruno@xxxxxxxx> writes: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 01:08:56 +0300, > Kalev Lember <kalevlember@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> With my proposal, Branched and rawhide would have exactly the same >> package set during the Alpha Freeze - Beta Freeze time frame. That way, >> we'd have a month to let users choose whether they want to stay on the >> Branched or on the rawhide track. > I'd still like to be able to play with new stuff that might not be ready > by beta, in rawhide during that time. Yeah. This proposal seems like it breaks one of the fundamental process improvements we already made, namely No Frozen Rawhide. I don't have a problem with Kalev's goal of reducing the amount of overhead for maintainers who only want to update rawhide and branched together, but I do object to doing that by preventing maintainers who want to push rawhide forward from doing so. >> Technically it should be easy to accomplish by having the fedora-release >> package obsolete older fedora-release-rawhide packages during that time >> frame. Anyone updating their rawhide systems would get the updated >> fedora-release package that contains yum configuration for F17 Branched. > I don't particularly have a problem with people getting branched by > default at branch time. I don't really care which is the default; whichever it is, the need is to make it reasonably simple to choose the other. But locking rawhide down in pursuit of such a goal is the Wrong Thing. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel