> > > Am 23.08.2011 15:36, schrieb Jon Ciesla: >>>> Fedora? Production? I do that, but I'm mental >>> >>> yes - from F9 to F14 this was really easy >>> VMware-Cluster with snapshots, some backup-machines as test >>> all machines using the same internal cache-repo and no external >>> >>> per server 4-6 minutes and 30 seconds for reboot >>> no problem maintain 23 servers this way with a little brain and >>> helper-scripts >>> >> Agreed. But it's not for everyone. ;) > > maybe, but i am not everyone - i know exactly what i do and something > goes terrible wrong if the really expierienced users have more > troubles as some standard desktop-user > >>> but F15 is the first release where this feels really ugly with no >>> benefit >>> anywhere until now >> >> "Feels"? So. . .you have to change your helper scripts? I'm confused > > my self written watchdog which detects reboot/shutdown and calls of > /sbin/service > doe snot work any longer and this script is simply perfect restarting > services > and giving the result of /sbin/service out results in a perfectly cron > mail > > with systemd - not possible, if systemd is reastrting a service you get > NOT > notfied - this is essential because it is one thing a service is fired up > again automatically but if you are not notified and this happens to often > you will not recognize this > > below a example > >>> Betreff: Cron <root@myhost> php /scripts/rh_watchdog.php >>> Datum: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:38:01 +0200 (CEST) >>> Von: Cron Daemon <root@mydomain> >>> An: root@mydomain >>> >>> "httpd" not running, waiting 5 seconds and restart if it not comes back >>> httpd beenden: [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] >>> httpd: no process found >>> httpd starten: [ OK ] > ___________________________ > > services with .socket-files are NOT stopped with "systemctl stop > name.service" > and suddenly fired up and the missing feddback of "systemctl" is bad > > below a example-mail of a weekly job stopping two mysqld-instances > on a machine (one of them replication-slave) and let rsync backup# > the replication into the other one - this have to be totally changed > >>> Betreff: Cron <root@myhost> nice -n 19 bash >>> /opt/scripts/backup-mysql.sh >>> Datum: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 03:10:01 +0200 (CEST) >>> Von: Cron Daemon <root@mydomain> >>> An: root@mydomain >>> >>> Sat Jul 2 03:10:01 CEST 2011 >>> mysqld beenden: [ OK ] >>> replication beenden: [ OK ] >>> replication starten: [ OK ] >>> mysqld starten: [ OK ] >>> Sat Jul 2 03:24:33 CEST 2011 > > there are tons of such scripts running perfectly since years and all of > that has to be changed/replaced/retested because of systemd > So they need to be changed, yes. A pain, but. . . >without any real benefit at this time . . .to you, perhaps. For many, however. -J > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
