Am 23.08.2011 15:36, schrieb Jon Ciesla: >>> Fedora? Production? I do that, but I'm mental >> >> yes - from F9 to F14 this was really easy >> VMware-Cluster with snapshots, some backup-machines as test >> all machines using the same internal cache-repo and no external >> >> per server 4-6 minutes and 30 seconds for reboot >> no problem maintain 23 servers this way with a little brain and >> helper-scripts >> > Agreed. But it's not for everyone. ;) maybe, but i am not everyone - i know exactly what i do and something goes terrible wrong if the really expierienced users have more troubles as some standard desktop-user >> but F15 is the first release where this feels really ugly with no benefit >> anywhere until now > > "Feels"? So. . .you have to change your helper scripts? I'm confused my self written watchdog which detects reboot/shutdown and calls of /sbin/service doe snot work any longer and this script is simply perfect restarting services and giving the result of /sbin/service out results in a perfectly cron mail with systemd - not possible, if systemd is reastrting a service you get NOT notfied - this is essential because it is one thing a service is fired up again automatically but if you are not notified and this happens to often you will not recognize this below a example >> Betreff: Cron <root@myhost> php /scripts/rh_watchdog.php >> Datum: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:38:01 +0200 (CEST) >> Von: Cron Daemon <root@mydomain> >> An: root@mydomain >> >> "httpd" not running, waiting 5 seconds and restart if it not comes back >> httpd beenden: [FEHLGESCHLAGEN] >> httpd: no process found >> httpd starten: [ OK ] ___________________________ services with .socket-files are NOT stopped with "systemctl stop name.service" and suddenly fired up and the missing feddback of "systemctl" is bad below a example-mail of a weekly job stopping two mysqld-instances on a machine (one of them replication-slave) and let rsync backup# the replication into the other one - this have to be totally changed >> Betreff: Cron <root@myhost> nice -n 19 bash /opt/scripts/backup-mysql.sh >> Datum: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 03:10:01 +0200 (CEST) >> Von: Cron Daemon <root@mydomain> >> An: root@mydomain >> >> Sat Jul 2 03:10:01 CEST 2011 >> mysqld beenden: [ OK ] >> replication beenden: [ OK ] >> replication starten: [ OK ] >> mysqld starten: [ OK ] >> Sat Jul 2 03:24:33 CEST 2011 there are tons of such scripts running perfectly since years and all of that has to be changed/replaced/retested because of systemd without any real benefit at this time
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