> > > Am 22.08.2011 16:36, schrieb Jon Ciesla: >> >>> >>> Am 21.08.2011 22:07, schrieb Jon Ciesla: >>>> Ignoring the pace at which this discussion is approaching incivility, >>>> in >>>> what way would bleeding-edge updates to systemd address any of the >>>> above? >>>> For games, many would argue the pushing the latest and greatest to >>>> every >>>> release is good. I might agree in most cases. But for something like >>>> systemd, most admins I've worked with would like nothing to change in >>>> the >>>> middle of a stable release unless it fixes a bug >>> >>> most admins will not be NOW at F15, they wait until F14-EOL for >>> production use to get most bad behavior and bugs away before >>> update servers >> >> Fedora? Production? I do that, but I'm mental > > yes - from F9 to F14 this was really easy > VMware-Cluster with snapshots, some backup-machines as test > all machines using the same internal cache-repo and no external > > per server 4-6 minutes and 30 seconds for reboot > no problem maintain 23 servers this way with a little brain and > helper-scripts > Agreed. But it's not for everyone. ;) > but F15 is the first release where this feels really ugly with no benefit > anywhere until now "Feels"? So. . .you have to change your helper scripts? I'm confused. -J > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel