On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Simo Sorce <simo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 21:16 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (simo@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > > On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp4x4@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Hi, >> > > > >> > > > 2011/7/18 Neal Becker <ndbecker2@xxxxxxxxx>: >> > > > > This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig >> > > > > >> > > > > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think >> > > > the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in >> > > > /etc/services.conf/ or something like that. >> > > >> > > No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's >> > > borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then >> > > fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file. >> > >> > Some daemons cannot be "fixed", get over with this mantra that daemons >> > need be fixed Lennart. >> >> Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping >> software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that >> is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only >> includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not >> qualify as that. > > Asking some upstream to add a whole configuration file reading subsystem > to extremely simple daemons that accept a handful of command line > options can be rightfully answered with a simple "no". > > Command line options are nothing wrong and have been around for ages, > there is nothing to "fix" in daemons that do not read a config file. > > But most of the changes in this area look gratuitous to me. They will > cause significant changes in admin tools and configurations and > therefore significant grief. > > Note that I am not necessarily against changing stuff in the long term, > when I started there was no /etc/sysconfig, and I won't cry if it goes > away and is replaced with a bunch of 'different' config files, big > deal ... same stuff just in different places, what a revolution! The "revolution" would be having the staff in the same location in every distro. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel