On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 21:16 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (simo@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp4x4@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > 2011/7/18 Neal Becker <ndbecker2@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig > > > > > > > > > > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think > > > > the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in > > > > /etc/services.conf/ or something like that. > > > > > > No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's > > > borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then > > > fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file. > > > > Some daemons cannot be "fixed", get over with this mantra that daemons > > need be fixed Lennart. > > Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping > software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that > is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only > includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not > qualify as that. Asking some upstream to add a whole configuration file reading subsystem to extremely simple daemons that accept a handful of command line options can be rightfully answered with a simple "no". Command line options are nothing wrong and have been around for ages, there is nothing to "fix" in daemons that do not read a config file. But most of the changes in this area look gratuitous to me. They will cause significant changes in admin tools and configurations and therefore significant grief. Note that I am not necessarily against changing stuff in the long term, when I started there was no /etc/sysconfig, and I won't cry if it goes away and is replaced with a bunch of 'different' config files, big deal ... same stuff just in different places, what a revolution! But your attitude of defining 'broken' anything that doesn't conform to your view of the world, is frankly tiring and not constructive. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel