Hi, Wiadomość napisana w dniu 2011-07-11, o godz. 11:04, przez drago01: > The same thing applies to system daemons only because it has been done > like this does not make it right ... and really asking the user to > edit the source code (yes shell scripts are source code not > configuration files) is just wrong.It is kind of odd seeing people > arguing in favor of that ... with the only reason "it has been like > that for $years". > Drago, please note there is a slight difference between configuration file and service startup script. Users are not supposed to edit startup scripts (at least according to my understanding who is the "user"), I don't remember having to do this ever. Also I can't remember any piece of linux software that would require editing source code / script files. > Yes people got used to that simply because there where no alternative > (people adding new scripts simply followed the lead of existing ones). > But now we have a chance to clean up this mess so we should do that > and not try to stick to the past forever. So, while systemd antagonists are trying to scare me with the vision of this software as a beast, you're using the same arguments to show they are wrong. Neither of you are right ;) Systemd is not a beast, but on the other hand, it's simply not true without systemd our life was a nightmare and we had to edit source code / shell scripts on a daily basis ;) I strongly support the appeal to try to increase SNR in this discussion. Thanks! -- Jarosław Górny RHCE: 805008212834187 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel