On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:44:45 -0700 Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 00:30 +0900, 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 10:04 -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:33:18 +0900 > > > 夜神 岩男 <supergiantpotato@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Considering the frequent calls of "Gnome 3 has failed at its > > > > task" or the "GUI has failed if the user must ____" makes me > > > > wonder: Where is the task definition or specification against > > > > which the implementation has failed? > > > > > > > > "Doesn't live up to my expectation" is very different from > > > > "Doesn't comply with spec" and both are different from "Is a > > > > bad design". > > > > > > How about a spec then of what Gnome3 was trying to achiece, and > > > how about those who like it telling us how Gnome3 achieved those > > > things? > > > > And this is precisely my point. At the moment criticism and defense > > both seem a bit aimless because we aren't seeing any references to > > the interface research someone said happened, interface > > specifications or even a concept discussion/summary about what > > gnome-shell was supposed to achieve. It was a serious undertaking, > > so I'm certain they had goals which were at least clear to someone > > at some point. > > https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/ I think it fails on #1: > Makes it easy for users to focus on their current task and reduces > distraction and interruption First, this point assumes that there is *one* current task. That is not how I work. I have one main task, and I keep an eye on some other things, like whose is in some chats, what comes up in twitter flows, etc. Then, if I want to start up some minor activity, GnomeShell has replaces the small menus with a full screen menu. My eyes have to completely refocus, and I have to hunt all over the screen for the purpose of finding the small infrequently used application I want to start. This is a *big* disruption of the main work I was doing, to the goal listed first was not achieved. It all looks very pretty though. -- Bernd Stramm bernd.stramm@xxxxxxxxx -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
