On 06/17/2011 01:02 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 06:48:14PM +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote: >> On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 12:20 +0200, Henrik Wejdmark wrote: >>>>> Since you recommend not using the application menu, in other words, >>>>> you agree that the application menu is useless? >>>>> >>>> >>>> It is useful when you are looking for something and you don't know what >>>> exactly it is. In that case, it is much much better then the previous >>> menus, >>>> because you have nice overview on one page and moreover you have the >>>> possibility to filter by groups for example. >>> >>> On my desktop it's not on "one" page, it's a mile long listing so you get no >>> overview at all. In Gnome2 at least all the apps are categorized. If the >>> graphical user interface _requires_ you to use the keyboard to type the >>> command >> >> It doesn't require you to type the command. >> >> You can search for "bro" and among the results will be Nautilus and >> Firefox (hint: Gnome Shell also searches in the application description, >> and both are "bro"wsers). > > I can't believe real usability testing was done on the final version > of GNOME 3. I keep hearing about all these completely undiscoverable > keyboard shortcuts that appear to be necessary to use GNOME 3 with any > sort of effectiveness. When I struggled with GNOME 3 for about a week > I didn't discover or use any keyboard shortcuts. I think what is required is an application that starts when the desktop is launched for the first time and that offers the user a short introduction to the basic principles of the desktop. Easy discoverability and good usability may sometimes go hand in hand but also at times are mutual exclusive. Having a short introductory "pamphlet" would help the user understand the basics without resorting to awkward tool-tips or pop-ups to nudge the user in the right direction. Regards, Dennis -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
