> so now i have the options of a upgrade to F15 while much work, > hughe health troubles and 2 weeks holidays are priority one > in my life this time Maybe if you complained less on mailing lists you would have time to try out F15. I have problems on my hardware as well (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711489), but I do not whine about it on this mailing list. Every moment the devs spend reading and aswering pointless rants there is less time to do actual development and fix real bugs. You seem to want that the Fedora devs provide newer Linux packages for F14. I would like that to. But that takes a lot of resources that are much better spent elsewhere, like fixing reported bugs! (Please fedora devs, fix my bugs :) ) /Andreas Tunek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel