On 05/28/2011 08:11 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> the key is that we don't test any kind of real-world configuration, with >> anything other than default apps, actual user data in place and so on. > > And it shows. :-( My user account has been through many upgrades, and I've > grown accustomed to having various problems that don't show up in newly > created accounts. This is also my experience both at user level and at system level. At the user level, I just create a new user and see if I can replicate the problem. If not, a manual bisection of the user config files will typically lead to a solution rather quickly. (but KDE3->KDE4 was a difficult matter, in fact I still don't know how I can activate activities windows tabbing on kwin). At the system level, I install new Fedora releases from scratch on an an additional junk machine, try things around and after upgrading my real machines, I use the junk one as reference to replicate problems and diff configs. Used that recently for issues related to fonts and antialias settings (concluded that the new installation is bugged too). -- Roberto Ragusa mail at robertoragusa.it -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel