On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 14:27 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: > On 05/27/2011 02:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 18:46 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > >>> In the #fedora IRC channel I have seen 100 preupgrade failures for every > >>> one DVD upgrade failure roughly, I have nicknamed it preFAILupgrade. So > >>> much so I already had a draft started and was a bit shocked to read it was > >>> a DVD upgrade failure... so as always YMMV. > >> > >> Well, I use plain yum for a reason. ;-) I've had so many problems with > >> Anaconda that I prefer bypassing it entirely. That said, that method is only > >> half-supported, so there too, YMMV. > > > >> From a practical standpoint, I'd say no upgrade method is particularly > > supported in reality. The extent of our support is that we test that an > > upgrade from a completely clean install of the previous release works; > > that's all the guarantee you get. > > Huh? The release criteria say a "fully updated default installation". yeah, that's what I meant. install F(N-1) with all default options, update, then run the upgrade. the key is that we don't test any kind of real-world configuration, with anything other than default apps, actual user data in place and so on. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel