On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:34:06 +0200, you wrote: >Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 21:30 -0400, Gerald Henriksen a écrit : > >> After all Gnome 2.32 isn't released until later this month, and the >> beta releases have been included in Fedora 14 up to now. > >Is that a good example ? Gnome has been broken one way or another in >Fedora 14 since branching point (I'm missing the *stable* GNOME >experience I had in rawhide). The desktop team usually handles >alpha/beta well, but this time they've overshot imho. Well, Gnome has a proven track record and this release seems to be the exception. In fairness to the desktop team, who seem to have been given a mess with the delay of Gnome 3, I think Gnome should have skpped the 2.32 release rather than this attempt to get something newish just to meet a schedule. It's unfortunate that the desktop team will get blamed for what is a Gnome mistake. But the broader point is what criteria is used to determine what software gets included in a given release of Fedora. A key point in the drive to have stable releases is that it is only a "6 month" wait to get a newer version of something into Fedora. But there is a danger that this can go too far and end up being 9 or 10 months if a project must have a final release before Fedora branches. Someone wanting the latest PostgreSQL is looking at an 8 month wait (assuming a May Fedora 15), and anything that was released in August but not included in the Fedora 14 branch has 9 months if we don't allow pre-releases. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel