On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 15:56 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 01:26:27PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> > Maybe I was too long winded, or failed to communicate my point: a >> > stable (bug fix only updates, slow feature release), strongly FOSS, >> > strongly upstream seems to be what some (I am not going to make >> > assumptions about numbers) want. I see two problems with this: >> >> Where, keep in mind, "slow" is defined as twice a year, right? >> >> > 1) the nature of such a distro would make it attractive to a smaller >> > percentage of the Linux community >> >> Do you have a basis for this claim? I think it's the opposite. >> >> > 2) the only aspect of that that would be unique is the commitment to >> > upstream -- something which will be appreciated by few >> >> I don't think that's fair at all. Fedora is unique in a lot of ways, and a >> waterfall of updates isn't essential to that uniqueness. > > Arthur's idea was better expressed in his original mail. His point was > that a Fedora aiming at the niche described (by Jesse) would differ from > Ubuntu solely in its more rigorous interpretation of 'freedom' and its > attention to upstream, which experience seems to show are not things the > majority of people who go for the Ubuntu niche care much about. I think > this is a pretty reasonable thesis - note how popular non-free software > is with Ubuntu users, how many people use Mint (which is essentially > Ubuntu with even more non-free stuff added), and how few people use/used > the more-strictly-free Ubuntu variations that have existed. > > As he put it, "I am suggesting that the mission you would like is > contradictory: not that it cannot happen, but in that it represents an > intersection of people that is very small." The niche described is a > kind of mix of attributes that appeal to entirely different types of > users/contributors. Exactly, the key idea is "The niche described is a kind of mix of attributes that appeal to entirely different types of users/contributors". It is an admirable goal to push for, even it it may nto reflect my own desires. However, I believe that it may be analogous to selling vegan dishes at a butcher shop. -- Fedora 13 (www.pembo13.com) -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
