On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Jon Masters <jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 07:23 +0100, pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Jon Masters <jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > I have an MTA installed because I expect to get emailed logs, and root@ >> > does go somewhere. Now, there are a couple of things I should admit: >> > >> > 1). I did replace the out-of-the-box MTA, because it was sendmail. I >> > don't actually care too much about using sendmail, I happened to have >> > configuration files that just work, because the entire mail subsystem >> > wasn't rewritten recently, so I could just copy those files in place. >> > >> > 2). I care more about the "server" experience on this machine than >> > pretty GUI stuff. I know that's no longer the default here :( I also >> > like to think about what I want to base upon Fedora in the future. >> >> But my point still remains that it doesn't work out of the box and you >> have to do stuff to make it work, so if your in that situation its not >> hard to do "yum install someMTA" > > To be clear, I'm in the "but I don't want Fedora to be just a GNOME > desktop" camp. So I see removing the MTA by default as just another step > in the wrong direction. Even if I will replace it with something else. I > know I'm not alone in that particular train of thought. Its got nothing to do with gnome what so ever. I don't see what that has to do with the discussion. I actually want it so its easy to make tiny appliances and routers without having to manually strip a whole lot of crap out. As I mentioned above there's nothing to stop it being included in another comps group, but moving it out of core AND base as being mandatory (when its not). Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel