Once upon a time, pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> said: > Neither of those need to run a MTA locally to work, you just need to > point them to a mail server, even then they need to be configured to > send the mail to something other than root anyway. They can't be configured that way; they don't implement SMTP. It is a de-facto standard for Unix programs to send mail by piping the message to either /bin/mail or /usr/{sbin,lib}/sendmail. That has the advantage of queueing for later delivery (what if I'm off-line when mdmonitor detects a failure?) and such. Having to implement SMTP in every program and then configure every program for SMTP server settings (including possible AUTH and SSL/TLS parameters) is a really bad idea. I'm still of the opinion that there should be _something_ at the de-facto standard location of /usr/sbin/sendmail that can queue messages for later delivery. I don't care whether it is actually sendmail or not. Preferably, it should be something that can be easily configured to smarthost and use SMTP AUTH. I would use sendmail for that, but that's just me (I understand many don't want sendmail and I have no problem with that). What do we gain by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit of disk space)? I understand that "a little bit of disk space" can add up quick, but a local queueing MTA is a pretty standard part of a Unix system. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel