On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:08:02AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > If non-sysadmins will hardly notice the new init system, shouldn't the > > sysadmins, who will notice, be the primary consideration? > > Non-sysadmins will notice that their system boots faster, which is a great > thing. Sysadmins will notice the negative effects. I consider myself sysadmin. And I'm really excited about systemd. The amount of control it gives me is astounding. Once you read excellent manpages, all is understandable and quite cool. There are some quirks I'm not sure will work OK (like interaction between PrivateTmp= and pam_namespace configured for /tmp like on fedorapeople) but Lennart is responsive and fixes bugs quickly. The only disadvantage is need to learn few new commands, but let's be serious. Being a sysadmin doesn't mean working with stale knowledge from last century. One has to learn few tricks from time to time, especially in fast moving environment like Linux. And to utilise all cool things Linux offers we need new tools. I'm happy to see those tools showing up and using quite coherent syntax - “tool” “action” “target”. Systemctl has this syntax, btrfs has this syntax, iscsitadm has it and I find those quite natural. (Frankly, even slow moving platforms like Solaris introduce new functionality, requesting competent sysadmin to update his knowledge. SMF, ZFS, Crossbow, Comstar. All replace or extend existing functionality and are worth few moments to accomodate). Unit files are simple and nicely documented. I shiver every time when I have to write SMF manifest, whereas configuring systemd is pleasure for me. Creating .service file for running service in idle scheduling class, chrooted, with lowest IO priority, outputting to syslog, and using executable which was not meant to be daemonised in the first place is... braindead simple. It is first time I want to upgrade my home server to branched, just to get systemd. Don't generalise that sysadms are against systemd. -- Tomasz Torcz ,,If you try to upissue this patchset I shall be seeking xmpp: zdzichubg@xxxxxxxxx an IP-routable hand grenade.'' -- Andrew Morton (LKML)
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