Once upon a time, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> said: > No I am just saying that a change isn't bad because it is a change. And others (like me) are just saying that a change isn't good because it is new. There's a middle ground that needs to be found, but repeating either of "change==bad" or "new==good" doesn't help. IMHO, systemd seems to cram a bunch of existing things (init, inetd, chkconfig, service, pstree, etc.) together, and the assumption is that this is new and good. I don't really agree. For example, if on-demand activation for socket-based services is the way to go, why has everybody abandonded that model by moving away from inetd? Having init directly manage services came before sysVinit (hello /etc/inittab), but nobody uses that anymore either. Also, hasn't starting lots of services in parallel been tried before and found to thrash the system, actually slowing down boot instead of speeding it up? -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel