Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> said: > Regular desktop end user wont notice any other change other than perhaps > faster bootup and the people that call themselves "power/advanced/admin" > users should have no problem to adapt and are urged from the start to Please remember that Fedora is not just about desktop end users, or even users at all in some cases. There are years of scripts, documentation, etc. that use chkconfig and service, and breaking them will be a PITA. > For god sakes people alpha aint even out the door yet! Well, the last time I waited (or didn't notice) a big change until after it was released, I got the "why didn't you say something while this was in development" response. I just want to see changes in a backwards-compatible way whenever it is practical. I understand that that is not always the case, but I don't see anything here that indicates systemd and the long-standing chkconfig/service interfaces can't continue to work. IMHO the onus is on the systemd developers to make it backwards compatible where practical, as they are the group that (a) are advocating a major change and (b) know how systemd (and presumably the current init system) works. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel