On Wed, 21.07.10 09:51, Jeff Spaleta (jspaleta@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: Heya, > Is there a reasonable deadline to shoot for? Let me get past this > weekend and I'll try to commit to doing so that I can be publicly > shamed if I fail at doing it. Thanks a lot for looking into this. Much appreciated! Next week's is the feature freeze IIRC and also GUADEC. Which means I am not really going to be around. Which is why I want the systemd switch completed by the end of the week. I have prepped a patch with makes upstart parallel installable with systemd, so that people can rescue their systems with init=/sbin/upstart on the kernel command line, should systemd break it. This should give as a smoother transition. Casey OK'eyed that patch basically, but we were hoping for a second OK from Bill, but he is on vacation, so i guess we'll have to do without it. Due to that my plan is to release v4 tonight and upload Upstart and systemd in a way that systemd is default and upstart can be installed as alternative. For the chkconfig stuff the deadline is not as crucial I think. I think people running rawhide can deal with an "imperfect" chkconfig for now. Of course, this change should be completed before we release F14, and before admins get their fingers on this. > Is there a todo list published that can be scanned by other interested > parties for low hanging fruit? Kinda. I maintain this list in git: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/tree/fixme However, it is a mishmash of english and a bit of german and you probably need a bit of context to figure out what I mean by the items listed. That list is primarily for myself, but it might be interesting for other folks too which is why I commit it to git. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel