2010/7/21 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx>: > There is an RFE for the same compatibility from chkconfig #616857 as in > chkconfig will try to use systemd native files first and spill out a > deprecation warning or just spill out deprecation warning hinting users ( > Written in C patches welcome ) and #612728 is dealing with users that > directly run /etc/init.d/foo along the way cleaning some other stuff which > should have been done eons ago and I suspect /sbin/service will be fixed at > the same time. Cool. I'll keep those in mind. > > < rant at those nei sayers > > > I must say it's interesting to see how the community holds so dear to the > code that was forge by putting holes in paper and have absolutely no problem > screaming at baby when it's barely out of it's birth canal. . . Community is an interesting word. And I don't think it applies here. Sysadmins are a breed apart quite frankly because other people expect them to be. And if you don't realize that sysadmins as a subspecies of the larger human experience are going to be grump-tastic about any changes...you don't know enough sysadmins and you aren't going to make many of them your friend. Is it rational? Nope..but it is what it is. Know your audience. There's a difference between looking forward to adapting to change and the inherent ability to adapt to change.. the two personality traits don't necessarily go together. I'm here to tell you that sysadmins don't historically, as the only unchallengeable monolithic human cultural stereotype, enjoy adapting..especially when they are told to suck it up and just deal with it...which is basically what they are told on a daily basis. Being good at adapting can wear you down when people grow an expectation that you are uncharacteristically good at doing it... just saying. I'm not part of the zero regression fanclub. But I'd like to help do what is reasonable to minimize the frustration of introducing a new way of doing things. The deprecation warnings are reasonable to me. We aren't going to reduce that frustration to zero of course. But we sure as hell aren't going to blunt the unavoidable pitchforks by telling sysadmin to just suck it up. I'd like to find a way to sell them on short term pain for long term gain from the sysadmin point of view. -jef"I'd tell you to go out and hug a sysadmin but that probably just get you punched"spaleta -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
