On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim <michael.silvanus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The signal-to-noise ratio in Bugzilla has definitely dropped since > ABRT is introduced. Newer versions do require some text to be inserted > before it will submit the bug report, but perhaps it has to be > modified further to require a minimum length and/or number of lines? > Otherwise users will just say "Start the program" or something > similar. I disagree. For the packages I maintain, they've actually resulted in me seeing issues that I normally wouldn't hit because they are in a feature I don't use. Making it easier for casual users to drive a traceback or stacktrace back to me has actually proven useful in informing me of problems. And for the most part when I need additional information on how to reproduce the issue users have responded. They've also created some bug reports for issues I simply can't reproduce at all.. and thus haven't been able to nail down.. but I wouldn't call those noise. The only _noise_ I've seen was abrt allowing someone to report crashes against included example matplotlib scripts (scripts which require non-default matplotlib userspace configurations to work), and the abrt developers have solved that problem to my satisfaction. I'm definitely see more activity than before abrt, but I honestly can't say its a worse signal to noise ratio for my packages. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel