On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 09:02:30 +0100, Camilo wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> > Upstream wants to talk to somebody who's actually experiencing the problem, >> > not to a forwarding monkey. > > It depends on the project. Some projects do not want to receive reports > about problems with distribution's packages. They would ask the reporter > to build from scratch and try to reproduce with the latest release or > snapshot. > >> Really? I would have thought upstream would be grateful for any >> reports, preferring that to silence. > > Assuming it's a detailed/complete backtrace accompanied with steps > on how to reproduce something, well, I would think the same. Unfortunately, > users still dump ABRT backtraces into Fedora bugzilla without adding > a single comment and without replying to questions. Upstream would also > prefer bug reporters to be responsive. The signal-to-noise ratio in Bugzilla has definitely dropped since ABRT is introduced. Newer versions do require some text to be inserted before it will submit the bug report, but perhaps it has to be modified further to require a minimum length and/or number of lines? Otherwise users will just say "Start the program" or something similar. -- Michel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel