On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'd like not to assume the worst, but given your mass closing of some > review bugs, plus your arguments here about why, plus your request for > a review swap earlier, I'm having trouble reading this as anything other > than a transparent frustration at your package not getting reviewed > fast enough for your liking, with an unsaid assertion that it's part of > the 'wheat' above. Cute re-ordering of events, there. No, after repeated experiences with seeking reviews, including this most recent one mentioned elsewhere on this list, and seeing others on this list repeating review requests, I was inspired to poke around to see why responses were so uneven. Looking at the process with fresh eyes, starting from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageReviewProcess and moving to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/ReviewRequests one sees a chaotic mess of package reviews, both assigned and unassigned, not really moving forward at all. Looking closely, you see a lot of packages that seem of worth, but that set is crowded by review requests for ancient packages like redhat-menus or kernel. In an ideal world, every package in fedora/devel would get a full package re-review prior to each release. But with finite resources limiting that, it seemed to me that triaging long-dead bugs for long-merged packages was a reasonable and helpful thing for the Fedora project. By all appearances, nobody else was bothering with these things after several years went by. If people want these obviously unloved, ignored review requests -- not even an rpmlint or ping in many cases -- to stick around, that's fine with me. I thought I was being helpful, but easy enough to leave things alone as well. My hail review was proceeding, and I wanted to make the process a bit easier for the -next- person wanting a review. Apologies for the ruffled feathers. The process itself is intimidating, because the wikis demand that a prospective reviewer wade into a completely unorganized swamp (BZ URLs linked-to from above URLs), hundreds of review requests, with next to zero information about where one's review would be most helpful. To an outsider, it must seem like quite a mess, with completely unknown chances for success/failure. Jeff -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
