On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So, here we are today with 242 still open merge reviews: > http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/MERGE.html > (Plus a few that were closed when they shouldn't have been). > > So, what do we do? > > Some possible options: > > a) Just close them all, any bugs in spec files in those packages can be > filed as bugs against them. </RH employee hat off> <Fedora contributor hat on> After a large survey, it is readily apparent that many of these 242 have been untouched for -years-, for packages that have been merged into Fedora and used happily for -years-. Further hundreds of other reviews outside your 242 are listed as assigned to a reviewer, but making no progress after multiple years. These merges are crowding out new packages that need merging, on bugzilla's list of "packages that need a review." As such, getting any package into Fedora requires navigating an informal, ever-changing process, where the chief attributes for success involve (a) knowing a Red Hat employee or (b) public, sometimes repeated begging on fedora devel. The results are highly uneven, and not necessarily directly related to the technical attributes of benefit to the Fedora Project. Closing a 3-year-old merge review of the "kernel" package is reasonable bug triage. It's not like the kernel package will get un-merged. The proper course of action for already-merged packages is to file bugs against those packages. We have an entire -team- of people looking at kernel bugs, while this silly "merge review: kernel" sits, ignored, for several years. The current package review system is failing miserably at separating wheat from chaff, is very chaotic, and non-deterministic. "Merge review: kernel" is pure noise. Jeff -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel