2010/7/2 Patrice Dumas <pertusus@xxxxxxx>: > On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:23:43PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote: >> 2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: >> > >> > I think we need to get rid of the concept of ownership entirely, that'd also >> > make orphaned or de-facto orphaned packages less of a problem. You see a >> > problem, you fix it. Who cares whether the package has an active maintainer >> > or not? > > That's very much against the fedora policies. > >> I'd like to get syslog-ng updated to the latest version in Rawhide (I >> work part time for the upstream developer and I'm also an occasional >> Fedora user). I contacted the package owner, no response. Created a >> bugreport to get it updated ( >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598961 ), and also provided >> an updated package, which compiles and works fine on Fedora 12, 13 and >> Rawhide. After waiting for weeks, I started a maintainer time out. It >> was closed within an hour. > > Indeed. Maintainer time out are for completly missing maintainers, not > to force them to apply a change. > >> Obviously I'm not a proven packager to >> update the package myself, as I'm not a Fedora developer. > > Even if you were a provenpackager you would be forbidden from doing that. > Provenpackagers right to modify other people packages are far from > being that large. Have a look at the relevant policy if you want more > information. > >> I worked a lot >> to update and test the package, but still I'm stuck. And as you can see, >> the maintainer timeout procedure does not help either... > > And the provenpackager policy wouldn't help either. > > > In the past we proposed a policy for that kind of issues with Rahul, > but it was never approved (nor really considered). > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/CollectiveMaintenance > > > The only thing that can be done, right now for such issues is the > traditional escalation procedure. I don't know if it is documented > anywhere, but it is along > > * make yourself clear in a bugreport (which is already done) > * explain the issue on the devel list (guess you already did that) > * escalate to FESCo > > -- I think escalating to FESCo is only suitable for changes which are controversial between different people, we should have another policy to treat those non-responsive issues, maintainers should respond on bugzilla report in time. Chen Lei -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel