On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:23:43PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote: > 2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta: > > > > I think we need to get rid of the concept of ownership entirely, that'd also > > make orphaned or de-facto orphaned packages less of a problem. You see a > > problem, you fix it. Who cares whether the package has an active maintainer > > or not? That's very much against the fedora policies. > I'd like to get syslog-ng updated to the latest version in Rawhide (I > work part time for the upstream developer and I'm also an occasional > Fedora user). I contacted the package owner, no response. Created a > bugreport to get it updated ( > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598961 ), and also provided > an updated package, which compiles and works fine on Fedora 12, 13 and > Rawhide. After waiting for weeks, I started a maintainer time out. It > was closed within an hour. Indeed. Maintainer time out are for completly missing maintainers, not to force them to apply a change. > Obviously I'm not a proven packager to > update the package myself, as I'm not a Fedora developer. Even if you were a provenpackager you would be forbidden from doing that. Provenpackagers right to modify other people packages are far from being that large. Have a look at the relevant policy if you want more information. > I worked a lot > to update and test the package, but still I'm stuck. And as you can see, > the maintainer timeout procedure does not help either... And the provenpackager policy wouldn't help either. In the past we proposed a policy for that kind of issues with Rahul, but it was never approved (nor really considered). http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/CollectiveMaintenance The only thing that can be done, right now for such issues is the traditional escalation procedure. I don't know if it is documented anywhere, but it is along * make yourself clear in a bugreport (which is already done) * explain the issue on the devel list (guess you already did that) * escalate to FESCo -- Pat -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel