On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 15:27 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > If you think we should vote, go join debian. I think > they do that there. First, I never said we should 'vote'. I talked about community involvement. Second, if you are looking at the sure path to drive people away, sending them to "go join Debian" will be it. (Though, in your defense, I did the same more than once, so I can't really blame you without sharing the blame) > In the meantime our community is suffering far more > infighting then before because everyone thinks their version is the right > version. As we narrow our focus, people are going to find they fall > outside of that focus. > > Bottom line is we should have done what we're doing now long ago, so we're > suffering the consequences as a result. Lots of people with conflicting > views are now here. Our lack of focus has just hurt us. I fully agree. With every single word. I do not agree that that working with zero community input is the way to achieve a working compromise. (And input does not equal vote) > > Have you used OSX lately? They're playing in a whole different league and > a whole different game then we are. It's not even a comparison. Not only > do we copy OSX but we do so poorly. For those that have problem with > apple or want a "more free" OS, Ubuntu's got the share. We're just not > there. Fedora's board isn't driving users and developers away, our OS is. > > The worst part is we won't get those users back with a marginally better > product. I can't really comment on it. (Don't have OSX, never tried it) Though, I would imagine that Fedora is compared to Ubuntu and Windows 7; I doubt that OSX is even on the list. - Gilboa -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
