"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > You must all realize that the ratio of bureaucracy/process burden and > quality of maintainers/packagers go hand in hand. The better the > maintainers/packagers/components are less bureaucracy/process burden is > needed. The worse it gets more bureaucracy/process burden is needed. If > ye all feel that the bureaucracy/process burden is increasing that only > means that the quality of maintainers and their components is going > down.. ( we might be getting more components inn in less quality ). If our maintainers suck, bureaucracy is not a good solution to fix that problem. But we already have a group of trusted maintainers, it's called "provenpackager". We could give provenpackagers the power to push directly to stable without any karma requirements. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel